As much as fans of the DC films were thrilled over the release of the Snyder cut of Justice League on HBO Max, many others lamented over the news that it will be the last hurrah for the Snyderverse.
The so-called Snyderverse of the DC Extended Universe (DCEU) has always had a rocky existence ever since the release of its first film, Man of Steel. Most of the films in the DCEU received mixed reception and box office results. After the original cut of Justice League did not perform well in theaters the film studio, Warner Bros., began to pull back on the concept of a shared cinematic universe.
At first, many thought this was a good idea as the films Shazam!, Aquaman, Birds of Prey (or the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) and Wonder Woman 1984 largely were standalone films without direct connections to the DCEU. However, that standalone nature also leads to problems such as the lack of continuity or coordination for other films. The best example of this is Wonder Woman 1984. In that film, which takes place well before the proper DCEU, you see the world undergoing massive events from the machinations of Maxwell Lord such as a third World War, huge walls appearing in the Middle East and mass deaths and destruction. Yet, even though these calamaties are undone, the collective memories of them still appeared to remain and was never referenced once in other films.
Then of course there is Zack Snyder’s Justice League. The way the film plays out contrasts severely with the original version of the film. In fact, Warner Bros. has come out and said Zack Snyder’s Justice League for better or worse is to be considered a “cul-de-sac”, a one-off or for a live-action Elseworlds. For non-DC fans that is an imprint of DC Comics that take place in alternate realities. That’s all well in good and Warner Bros. should continue pursuing more Elseworlds stories such as what they did with Joker and with next year’s The Batman. They should also pursue Justice League Mortal by George Miller or even Joss Whedon’s Justice League and give the director the chance to correct the fake upper lip travesty!
However, Zack Snyder’s Justice League was very well received and with the way it ended, the film left fans wanting more. Of course, it does not help that the ending of the film clearly set up future films and spinoffs. For Aquaman that is fine since his solo film did take place after Justice League, but for Superman. Well, Warner Bros. cannot get its act together and put out a proper Man of Steel sequel. Instead, they hired J.J. Abrams to reboot the character.
Now there are outcries not just for the DCEU but for the Snyderverse established in the new version of Justice League. People want to know what was going on with Batman’s Knightmare vision which featured him teamed up with the Joker. Was Lois Lane pregnant for certain? What is the future for Wonder Woman (her films take place in the past)? Snyder himself said he would love to continue these films but relations between him and Warner Bros. are not exactly great now.
Even if Warner Bros. relented and agreed to more films set in this alternate DCEU there are the logistical hurdles of reuniting the cast. Ray Fisher, who played Cyborg, one of the pivotal characters in Zack Snyder’s Justice League, has had a bad falling out with the film studio. Ben Affleck left the role of Batman after creative differences in the direction of the next Batman film. Instead we are getting another standalone Batman film that features the Caped Crusader as a younger man. And Warner Bros. and Superman actor, Henry Cavill, cannot seem to agree on a venue for him to return. So this is most likely the last hurrah for the Snyderverse. To transition away from the Snydervere an idea would be to have the Flash solo film use its rumored Flashpoint storyline to reboot the DCEU. It makes the most sense. Still it is nice to hope against hope that we have not seen the last of the Snyderverse.
In the wake of the Snyder Cut there’s certainly been a lot of speculation and desire from fans to see the Snyderverse continue. Realistically I doubt its possible for this to happen on the big screen, although perhaps it might in animated form perhaps, or even a comic book series to complete Snyder’s the other Justice League films he planned? I think the Flash solo film will be the one that brings everything together and sets out a new path for the DC films going forward.
You’re probably correct that the comics and other media are were the Snyderverse will continue. And it won’t be too surprising if the Flash film addresses the Snyderverse and shows how it gets rebooted. I also hope we get to see in the film the meeting of the two Flashes from the POV of the DCEU Flash.😃
Oh Yeah, that would be so cool to see both of the Flash’s meet like that!
In some ways it’s a shame but not unexpected and it’s long been an unrealistic proposition to have Zack Snyder’s take on the DC film universe continue. In hindsight it would have been great to have a single Snyder JL film to wrap up his trilogy.
I’m totally a fan of Man of Steel and BvS and very much enjoyed the Snyder Cut but also want to see the DCEU expand as it is with different filmmakers bringing their voice to the various characters whilst keeping some overall connectivity across the mainline universe (I think the multiverse approach is an exciting prospect to tell stories beyond that).
Still, there’ll be a few elements continuing on from the Snyderverse – we have the same actors going on with their Snyder-originated characters, even Ben Affleck coming back for one last hurrah in The Flash – which will hopefully set the DCEU fully on course.
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